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Braving the label

2008-06-30T01:33:16Z

I recenty came across a label for myself that I like and can wear with pride. I made it up myself, and you could easily say its an amalgamation of 15 years of witnessing ALL different kinds of love and relationships. But especially in the last 3 years, I've wanted more definition around my love life.
So I've decided-I'm a relaxed monogamist.
:D:D:D

I understand this tribe isn't necessarily About Labels, but I still wanted to share that being in this tribe has helped me tremedously. If you disagree with me, its cool.If you agree, its cool. *shrugs*

Being a relaxed monogamist means for me, that even though I want to bring poly elements into my life, essentially, I come from monogamous relationships, and am likely to be in them in the future. It means for me that Devotion is a high tenet in my life, for what I offer and expect. Here's a blurb from my blog that may clarify~

"Essentially, Eventually, a Main Sweetie who finds me funny, fascinating, inspiring, and a close friend. We would spend our devotion dollars on each other.

But people don't own other people. I have strong feelings on non-possession of Other. So if my Sweetie or me wants to play with others..we'll talk. It would be in the interest of not-bucking-with-the-foundation of Us."

Thank you for listening!

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who are we?

2008-06-28T03:31:56Z

so i was looking through the faces of those in this tribe. many of you sneaked(snuck?) in the back door. i'm delighted to see such a mix of people and balance of gender. it is inspirational. if you feel so inclined, please introduce yourselves. you can use as many labels as you like. and you can tell us whatever you like. or you can just say hi and we'll click on your face and extract our own assumptions. ;)

so...hi. i'm solar. for whatever reason, i have always been comfortable with my sexuality. i do not take that comfort for granted. i'm in love with everyone. and i really appreciate you being here.

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LOOKING

2008-05-11T12:24:08Z

Trying to find someone to be my life partner in a rural communal setting. I love all people...male, female and those somewhere in betwee.

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Bi Nature: Party in the East Bay for Bi Couples and Single Bi Ladies

2008-05-11T06:00:49Z

Hello Friends: Linda and I are hosting a small intimate party for bi couples and single ladies. The party will be in a small cabin located in a nature preserve that is not open to the public, so we will have absolute privacy. The party will start at 3:00 pm on Saturday, 24th. The party will be 420 friendly. Usual rules apply, no unprotected intercourse unless it is with your committed partner. We want friendly, down to earth, go with the flow people who are respectful of other people’s limits and comfort level. No pushy or rude people, or you will be asked to leave. Enjoy the nature surrounding you and enjoy the nature of the guests. Hope to see you there, so RSVP – ASA. Jose and Linda

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Hindi Great songs chords with Lyrics

2008-04-13T18:02:02Z

please check it

www.hindisongschords.blogspot.com

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Pomosexuality and the Death of the Label

2008-04-05T02:41:04Z

BECAUSE LABELS ARE FOR CLOTHING... NOT PEOPLE.

Pomosexuality (short for postmodern sexuality) refers to a nonorientation in which people disregard sexual labels altogether. While it is convenient to sort everyone into a handful of different groups - homosexual, bisexual, heterosexual - pomosexuality argues that not only can these words and categories not do justice to the complexity of human sexuality, but are also grand illusions socially constructed to maintain a state of separateness between people. Like most other things in life, sexual orientation and/or gender identity isn't a black and white, either/or experience for many of us. More appropriately, it is best described as a fluid and incalculably unique journey that is beyond definition. Pomosexuality literally means anything you want it to mean. It means anything goes. And it represents an end to all the confusion, oppression, fear, and restraint that comes with trying to identify with a restrictive label.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXxODfmU_iU

Join the new social network that is introducing the concept of pomosexuality to the masses, revolutionizing the way the world views sexuality and gender. wWw.POMOWORLD.com

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Looking for a Loving Earth Friendly community style living solution without limits?

2008-03-10T22:24:06Z

Looking for an Earth Friendly community style living solution?

There is a Meeting of the Kindred Spirits coming up March 29th! And
we do need to see some more Positive well integrated Female Energy in
this group who can work closely with others.

http://edenvillage.net/18.htm

Small Cabins under one hundred square feet can sometimes be used
in some states until you get ready to go up to code with a real home.

That would be an 8x12 cabin with rooftop rainwater collection.

A simple and fairly inexpensive solar power system that I might
recommend for instance, might consist of 6 - SQ 160 Watt PV panels,
One MX60 Controller and 4 L-16 H Deep Cycle batteries along with a
nonda power center and a battery bank desulfator.

Forget Flourescents unless you like to eat mercury. The time is now
for the low voltage LEDs.

We are still looking to organize a group of volunteers to
help out some good folks one day out of the week, with some
organic gardening and we still do need someone to take Minutes
at the next meeting.

It would be possible, I would think, if there is a single female or
two out there who is cool about living closer to the Earth then
I may be able to provide a place for you to live, for
maybe 6 months out of the year up where I live in Northern
California.

If you can simply come to our next meeting on March 29th. - T

http://edenvillage.net/18.htm

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Conspiracy History compilation DVDs torrents

2008-03-06T13:56:42Z

**************************************************

Greetings to all my relations.

This is the last step of our project History Watch. If History is
defined and known by the texts, we can now add to this definition the
recorded events of the filmed archives. Animated images are harder to
deny than printed words. Our objective is to spread out freely some of
the little broadcast, even hidden informations about our collective
History.

We put online a collection of 391 documentaries and other selected and
recut videos, to offer to a wide public the best of the infos
available on the net in english and in french. If you are interested,
you have the time, the right equipment and connection, all you have to
do is open the joint document and decompress it if needed (but normaly
your system should do it automaticaly). You'll find therein nine links
that will open the torrents for the nine DVDs we compiled (around 4.6
Gig each, for a total of a little over 41 G, being over 100 hours of
videos).

Otherwise, you can go directly to btjunkie.com and search for these titles.

11 Septembre 2001 - 9-11
Bush family & friends
Capitalist & Communist regimes
Capitalist conspiracy
Mind Kontrol - Secret Programs
New World Order - Secret Societies
Secret services - cover up - covert ops
Secret weapons - UFO
Terrorism Theories propaganda

Torrents are a system of peer to peer data transfer. The more people
download a torrent, the faster it spreads and the longer it stays on
the net. If you don't have a bittorrent software, we suggest that you
download uTorrent on utorrent.com. If you want to participate in
facilitating the diffusion of these infos about our collective
History, download these torrents on as many computers as possible,
whether it is in cybercafes. It takes one or two minutes to open up
the links and the downloading will keep proceeding on its own.

Please spread this out, take part in this action for social education
on a planetary scale. Thanks.

For more info: watch.history@gmail.com History Watch

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MORD

2008-02-25T20:53:09Z

Recently a new friend posted a blog entry labeling me "Married Open Relationship Dude". It was all in jest and she meant no harm, but it surprised me how painful a label that was for me. I overreacted and made the situation worse by complaining about it in sharply biting way.

I think what bothered me was that I felt like I wasn't being seen for who I was.

Playing with labels can be fun, I do it too. Any advice on how we can take ourselves less seriously and still stand up to stereotypes?

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The Diary of Jane

2008-02-11T17:04:38Z

I recently wrote this as a response to someone who commented on the fact that the message of my last blog post was a bit depressing. I started to explain, then once I'd written it out realized how utterly crushed I really was. I find this surprising, as I'm kind of famous for being uncrushable.

I've created an anonymous account, something I rarely do, for obvious reasons and to protect the people involved, who's names are also changed. Maybe I just need another perspective from a faceless person that knows the whole story, maybe I need a reality check or maybe just a hug. Either way I had to let it out. I had to.

The fact is, I'm in love with my best friend. I have been for a long time, almost since we met. I was with someone already. In fact, the way we met was Jane trying to hook up with her. Jane was with someone too, and I became best friends with both of them.

What I felt in those days has lingered, because at the time without putting too fine a point on it I had had a pretty rough run of significant others in my life who enjoyed leaving bruises n' not in the fun way. I know it's very rare in men, but it happens, and it happened to me a couple of times in a row. Point is, Jane took me in, cared for the parts of me that were broken when I got the courage to get out of a particularly long-running travesty of a relationship. After, I was barely there.

They built me up, they even gave me a place to live, and more through what I saw between them (though the relationship was ultimately doomed) I re-learned about love and the way people who love each other treat each other.

I came to admire my best friend, and as I said I came to be in love with her. Still, I had learned the skills I needed to make it a pure love, one that didn't threaten I'd do something to sabotage her relationship or even cause me to covet her overlymuch. That feeling gave me the faith to face everything that came after, to get to here. That feeling even made me a "True" friend for what felt to me like the first time in my life.

That, give or take, is the back-story. Since, she moved to California and I moved back to my home state for a year and a half. When Amber (my now wife) and I moved here we got together, her newly single and me in the first *Real* relationship in my life.

Long story short we went out, ended up in a limo plied with WAAAAY too much vodka and then back at her place. A threesome ensued. While due to the sheer amount we had drank it was by no means my finest work, but I always held it as a singular moment, important. Me able to express my love in the only way I hadn't been able to, and with the two people I cared most about in the world. I had no illusions, I took it for what it was. If I seem to harbor a longing for the memory it's only because the memory itself to me is so sweet.

Even when we'd first started spending time together, it didn't take me long to realize while Jane and I created a fantastic gear, at the heart of it she comes from a much brighter place than I do. I could never dwell there, my eyes could never adjust. It was something I excepted with a sweet and excruciating sting, crossed myself and gave thanks for all that I did have in this life, and moved forward. As I'm fond of saying, I always knew Jane would never feel as much for me as I did for her.

But today I got a letter from her, it was titled "confession" and it was pretty much a denunciation and apology for her part in the act, and a very detailed account of exactly why it meant absolutely nothing to her, and in fact *could* not have at that time in her life.

I guess I'm upset, sad and frustrated. She wrote me this because I don't hide my appreciation for her. I mean, she's my best friend. But, due to the particularly artsy and editorially inclined sort of people that we are evidentally my appreciation has become so overt that my friend, my junior of SEVERAL years, felt the need to "check" me.

This is profound, what I feel. It's profound and wonderful and doesn't require a damn thing from anyone. I love who Jane is, and for all the subtleties surrounding that the simple fact of it was the foundation for alot of who I am today.

And I'm struck by the fact that no one does understand. Or worse, that they do and don't want it.

suddenly, I find myself out of words.

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Un-labeling relationships

2008-02-05T23:25:09Z

http://embodiedsexuality.blogspot.com/2007/12/attraction.html

I wrote this blog post about part of my process of un-labeling by and would love to hear what others have done to un-label!

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Noobie here!

2008-02-01T16:52:47Z

Just saying hello to all! I'm SO happy to be here!
SB

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Polyamorous films on the Playa

2008-01-16T09:21:36Z

Those of you that are polyamorous, I have created a new event for your enjoyment next year at Burning Man. It involves magic, fun, creativity, and a camera.
Check out the site for details...
www.jeffdeveraux.com/pfc

If you have any suggestions, let me know.

Ciao

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Soul Bond

2008-01-11T20:24:15Z

The second time I imbibed the mushroom sacrament was just after I graduated highschool, a friend and I were sitting in the park, blissfully enjoying each others conscious company, letting the mushrooms kick in as we basked in the amazement of each others awareness and playfully trying to cross our eyes in a manner that lets us visualize each others third eye. Our conversation became more of a completion of each others thoughts, that click and understanding, until there came a moment where we both felt the same thing, we were conscious of the Us consciousness, I and You melted away. The first click was a brief with a moment of confusion, sort of like 'What was that?' 'There is no 'Was', and We became I again. To keep up our connection it felt as if I would push us further along the spiral and he would pull with the energy of what hed learned, teaching my consciousness something to digest so i could in turn power level us deeper. The whole night our internal and external enviroment was a conscious syncronicity, we felt this is exactly what we should be doing, this is what we pine for, this satisfies every metaneed. The clearest thing that was communicated was him telling me that hed never truly experienced love and was abused as a child, and I could feel exactly how bad it was and cried with direct empathy. The timeless hours had worn out our energy by sunlight, throughout the night to continue stimulating the connection it had degraded a bit because we needed physical manipulation of each other for serotonin drive, still clothed, a pure form of bodywork, pure tantra, occasionally needing an affectionate touch on bare skin.

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Isn't everybody bi?

2008-01-11T00:53:08Z

“Everybody's bi but they're just to freighted to get on with it and express their love.”

I said the above to someone a few years back and they didn't get it. Most people at some point in their life will be attracted to someone of the same sex and probably will have experimented in their teen years. I also think most people, to varying degrees, are androgynous but find it difficult to express their “other-side”. Instead of denying my feminine side I'm learning to embrace it and consequently becoming more whole as a person.

Just for the record I've set up a tribe for people that like to describe themselves as an 'Androgyne': http://tribes.tribe.net/androgyne

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Are you Poly and an Artist?

2007-12-23T20:36:33Z

PolyWorks Fund, a new charity forming in the polyamory community, is in its design stages. As part of the process, we need a logo!

We know that the polyamory community is full of talented, creative people and so, we're going to ask for a little help and ask for a logo donation.

We need an original logo for the org that is:

1. Easily reproducible in print and on a website.
2. Gives a feeling of sturdy capability. (The name of the charity is PolyWorks Fund, after all, so we're a workin' charity).
3. Is not limited to the infinite heart motif one often sees in the polyamory community. While hearts are popular, thinking outside the box for this one is a good idea.

PolyWorks Fund is organized for polyamorous people to unite as a positive force within the global community by giving time, energy, and monetary support to the various needs of people throughout the world.

Send submissions to goddessofjava@polyamorousmisanthrope.com with the subject line: "PolyWorks Fund Logo Submission". Please make sure that submissions are in .jpeg, .tif, or .gif format for the selection process.

Chosen submission will become the property of the PolyWorks Fund including but not limited to reproduction rights and sales rights. The artist of the chosen submission may keep copies for portfolio purposes. Unselected submissions will not be returned to the artist. Submissions that are not chosen remain the intellectual property of the artist and will not be reproduced nor sold by the PolyWorks Fund.

Deadline for Submissions is February 1, 2008.

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why does being in love hurt so much ?

2007-12-23T09:12:07Z

i mean like while it is going, it hurts in a way since you never know if you are doing all you can to keep your partner happy . I try good communication. It usually works. But why the hurt part ? What causes it ? Does anyone else ever feel this ? I only feel it after the first three months. then it stops after we're into the 10th month. Am I weird ? haha seriously though.

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'Third eye contact' Tantra and Mushrooms

2007-12-22T06:34:20Z

I've had a few lifechanging experiences with psilocybe cubensis, my first two provoked what I can only describe as tantra. The first time I've eaten godflesh was my 18th birthday, late at night with a blissful family of friends. A bit after people went to thier bedrooms I still couldn't sleep and decided to bunk on the mattress with a single guy. He and I began copulating in an amazingly slow manner while our trip continued to escalate. Our bodies flowed like every particle of our beings was meant to mesh together. Initially, my mind was full of 'OH, God, this is perfect sex! This is what they mean!' We continued to breathe and operate on the godjuice, perfectly in sync with each other and gravity. Gradually my mind filled with what seems like every thought and emotion ive experienced, until they became realized as One, then there was only the moment, oxygen, the sun that would never rise; I felt I'd experienced a satori. On a side note a ,week after that enlightening experience, I was listening to Tool's 'Lateralus' and contemplating Alex Grey paintings; and I felt, energetically, like Id understood what the paintings were portraying, followed by my head lolling back and what felt like a 'full body orgasm' taking over, which I found out was a kundalini uprising. The second time I imbibed the mushroom sacrament was just after I graduated highschool, a friend and I were sitting in the park, blissfully enjoying each others conscious company, letting the mushrooms kick in as we basked in the amazement of each others awareness and playfully trying to cross our eyes in a manner that lets us visualize each others third eye. Our conversation became more of a completion of each others thoughts, that click and understanding, until there came a moment where we both felt the same thing, we were conscious of the Us consciousness, I and You melted away. The first click was a brief with a moment of confusion, sort of like 'What was that?' 'There is no 'Was', and We became I again. To keep up our connection it felt as if I would push us further along the spiral and he would pull with the energy of what hed learned, teaching my consciousness something to digest so i could in turn power level us deeper. The whole night our internal and external enviroment was a conscious syncronicity, we felt this is exactly what we should be doing, this is what we pine for, this satisfies every metaneed. The clearest thing that was communicated was him telling me that hed never truly experienced love and was abused as a child, and I could feel exactly how bad it was and cried with direct empathy. The timeless hours had worn out our energy by sunlight, throughout the night to continue stimulating the connection it had degraded a bit because we needed physical manipulation of each other for serotonin drive, still clothed, a pure form of bodywork, pure tantra, occasionally needing an affectionate touch on bare skin. In the moments when the connection was weak it was because we would admit to desire, usually 'lets smoke', but we both knew it was a stoners neurotic impulse and continued to grace the Us until we didnt have enough energy at all, barely enough to force ourselves to find his glasses. At one of those weak moments, his eyes were shut and I could see that his Third eye was open. We have grown apart a bit as friends since then. I took mushrooms with him again the day before yesterday, and massaging his back I still felt I knew his energy, I knew his body and the tensions that formed his muscles. I got really into the massage and it sunk us into a mild trance. The mushrooms as usual were very cathartic, so at one point I broke down sobbing on him because of the pining I felt for the connection to another conscious being again. Today I had a few syncronicities and broke through my depression with the acknowledment that God is conscious and satisfies every need one could have if I let go of desire, and the realization that someday I'll lose the feeling of separateness either through physical or ego death.

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How would you finish this sentence?

2007-12-03T02:23:16Z

Labels are...

a quick way to help people understand something about you without actually getting to know you.

words that try to sum up what is better said in a longer conversation.

sticky things that help identify things, but after a while just get annoying and one has to pick and peel them away.

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Could you please participate in my survey on masculinity?

2007-10-12T18:19:00Z

I am a doctoral student seeking participants to complete a survey that explores the psychological experiences of being a man and how it influences your life. You must be a male who is 18 years of age or older

The survey will take approximately 30 minutes to complete and your participation is anonymous.

If you are interested in contributing to knowledge about how being a man impacts how you view yourself and others, please go to the following website: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=218103339703

Thank you for your help.
Michael Franco
831.480.5180
masculinitystudy@yahoo.com

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a fable

2007-09-24T15:41:13Z

i am unable to lie
liable to love and
lovable to lie with

it's likely you'll be unable to label me,
incapable of eluding me,
letting the lust linger
longer

sidle on up to me,
nuzzle on in on me,
nossel,
muzzle,
pixel puzzle,
collating what lies beyond and between

unable to label me
unable to label me
unable to label me

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Seeking queer triads for research!

2007-09-22T22:13:31Z

My name is Sunny. I am a graduate student in the Sexuality Studies program at San Francisco State University. I am conducting research on polyamory. The aim of my study is to explore how individuals in queer polyamorous triads discuss love in their relationships. I am in search of individuals in queer, long-term (one year or longer), polyamorous triads to interview. Individuals must identify themselves and their relationships as queer, and the triads must be three people who are all sexually and romantically involved with one another.

Participating in this study will entail a 45-90 minute one-on-one interview at a comfortable and private location convenient for both of us to discuss your experiences and feelings of love while in a triad.

If you are currently in a queer, long-term (one year or longer), triad relationship and are interested in participating in the study, please contact me!

smnordmarken@yahoo.com
(415) 516-0908

I am currently seeking people to interview! Please contact me as soon as possible if you would like to participate.

Thank you!
Sunny

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this is me!

2007-08-31T17:07:26Z

the description of this tribe is EXACTLY how I've been describing myself to people for years. I just love people, based on who they are, not their gender, or the type of relationship I establish with them (friend, lover, etc.). PEOPLE JUST AS PEOPLE. People for the connection they make with me, not the space they hold in my life.

Oh God though, I need guidence. I've been dating the same guy for 6 years (a few breaks and other lovers inbetween for both of us. But six years none the less). And now Im coming to a breaking point. I want freedom to express my love in anyway I see natural for me with other people, but on the other hand I also see a future with him (you know, that whole mariage, family thing). More than anything else though, I just don't want to lose HIM. No matter as my lover, my friend, whatever, I just don't want to lose him. And I know I cant stay with him just because I don't want to lose him, but ... uh its just so hard. And hes great to me, and we're great together ... when I'm not craving the freedom I described above. And he doesnt see love the way I do. He sees "friend love" and "girlfriend love." I just see "human love." With that said can this relationship even work? Have any of you gone through this situation? And advice, experience, just words of comfort in general?

-Shnickie

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Label Your Lifestyle, Label Yourself

2007-08-31T03:12:58Z

"At this point I am hoping my stay in the mono side of things really is temporary, or I will have to have one of those long talks with myself about how poly I really am." - Arashi

That statement really got into my head. The rather long-winded essay below began as a response, and ended up a dissertation on labels themselves. I'd still like to share it with you. I will cross-post it to a couple of the tribes it applies to and my journal. I hope that no-one minds. :)

Again, I think the misconception here is that "Polyamoury" is a thing. I've often said I played the devils advocate with labels, because they *do* allow strangers a rough template, a place to start from, when they're figuring out how to relate to someone new. Beyond that though, people begin to see them as an entity or a template to mold into, qualify as. If you aren't careful it becomes a glass ceiling and an obstacle keeping your perception from helping you realize who you are as an individual.

This is the danger of all tools.

I'll use myself as an example, because I'm the only person I know that well ;)

FIrst, I'll tell you that I've had several relationships with men. There, right way you can establish that the chances are good that I'm gay, or at least bi-sexual. If that's the only thing I tell you you'll probably label me as gay.

But, I'm married.

Now you think you've got it figured out. I'm probably bisexual, possibly a gay man in denial?

But, I haven't been in a relationship with a man for nine years.

Wait, this is getting confusing. Possibly I was just experimental, or trying to be trendy. Maybe I'm a happily married bisexual male. Maybe I'm *still* gay, but still happily in denial in it's most extreme, at least for the time being.

I could go on like this forever, because the layers of a human personality don't lend themselves to simple admissives and dismissives.

What if I told you I've been with her gay friends in front of her, recently. We've had sex with other peple, recently. Now what are we? What happens if I tell you that it may never happen again, or that we are never, ever with people without the other person there.

All these layers, all this doubt. All these assumptions crashing into each other. The tool becomes a weapon, at least to me (in this example), because now what was intended to help you realize who I am is limited by the image each part of my personality creates. Am I "poly" am I a "swinger". Am I gay,bi, or straight?

How many things have I told you that exclude one and prove another in spite of itself? And what if two years from now I end up divorced in a relationship with two men? Was I ever monogamous, straight, bisexual, am I now?

You see, the problems with labels starts when you use them as a noun, instead of an adverb.

An adverb is a part of speech. It is any word that modifies any other part of language

In traditional school grammars, nouns are all and only those expressions that refer to a person, place, or thing.

"all and only" is what we've been tought. That "man" is not a "bisexual". He is a "bisexual man". To say "that's a efemminant guy" is to say he has a tendancy towards androgyny. "That guy is a fem." indicates that he will do things to conciously put forth and mold himselsf into an androgynous person.

To learn about ourselves, that's one of the first destinctions we should make in our language and how we understand the terms that define us, because ultimately nothing does. You are a person. You are (likely) a human being. Beyond that anything can change. Clumsy, graceful, gay, straight, polo, mono. It's pride, or our need to categorise that raises these less important definative terms to descriptions of the beings we are.

We have to, as inquisitive and ever-fluxuating beings, from the personal to the communal level, understand that everything short of being in and of itself is subject to change by such universal factors we can NEVER assume it's constant.

So take these words, and use them to understand your tendencies, your curiosities, but treat them like you would a bookmark in the novel, which is you. Ever-changing and progressing, pausing in places of particular interest one the way from the beginning to the end.

Consider them a definition, and you could be stuck on the same page forever.

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Reject another layer of labels

2007-07-17T23:43:04Z

If we get rid of the terms girlfriend or boyfriend,
(or insert term of your choice here) how might that change
the assumptions we have about relationships?

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how do you choose..

2007-07-07T19:34:14Z

Im currently in a relationship with 4 ( more accurately 3) people. and One of these beautiful people is having trouble with the fact that I am not there just for her. She seems to be very adept to being able to work in a poly relationship...not necessarily be poly, but interact and love someone who is. I was wondering if anyone on here is or has been in a similar situation. I have been with one of my lovers for 2 years, and the girl in question feels dwarfed by that..

how do i convey there is no power struggle...how do i make it known that each person is just as important to me. Is it impossible?

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Bugs Bunny: gay, straight or bisexual?

2007-06-30T14:40:33Z

he never seemed to be into the lady rabbits

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Lulu's tonight (Folsom and 6th)

2007-06-08T23:07:05Z

I'll be there around 9 with some friends, for drinks, food and fun. If anyone is interested and is in town, come on by.

I look like the picture on my pofile (duh)

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Please come and join the new Poly-Couplery tribe!

2007-06-04T05:41:04Z

Hey folks, I just created a tribe called Poly-Couplery. It's for people like me and my boyfriend who are poly and consciously trying to date, fall in love, and overall be connected to other poly people....but as a couple. We'd LOVE for you to be part of this tribe! Yay!
http://tribes.tribe.net/polycouplery

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"Are you queer?"

2007-05-16T05:23:07Z

This question was asked of me (quite innocently) during the Trans March on Friday. I had no idea how to answer, and I ended up not answering at all. I thought about this question for a long time afterward and I'm still not sure how to answer; I don't really self-identify as anything. I guess I'm 'queer' if queer means that you're open to loving people of any gender (or genderless), which later that evening is how a friend defined how she uses the word. But the word has a lot of different means to a lot of different people. Hrm. It turns out that simple question is actually a hard question for me. Labels are difficult!

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New to tribe...Who's Bostonian like me?

2007-03-30T19:25:07Z

Hello. My name is Kate. I am somewhat new to the tribe. I love all the stuff going on in SF, but I'm wondering if I have any kin over here in Boston. I'd love to hear from you.

-Kate

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Connecting without labels

2007-03-08T06:21:24Z

The name of this tribe really resonates with me because there are so many damn labels associated with love and relationships and I'm really getting tired of them mostly because they seem to solidify a connection before it ever really develops. I find that I want to connect without so many labels but there seems to be such a tendency to want to assign certain labels to people from the outset. Are you mono or poly? Are you into kink? What are you looking for: LTR, FWB, friends only? And on and on. The thing for me is that I don't identify with any of these things overall. They take shape based on the connection and the person I am relating to. I might meet someone and just be friends or it might feel right to be somewhat physically intimate or just emotionally intimate or maybe the connection is so strong we want to be in a monogamous committed relationship but I don't know that until I get there. My intention in meeting women is to be open and see them for who they are and see what naturally unfolds and allow it to progress in whatever direction the connection takes it without expectations or attachment. That seems so simple and yet so hard to actualize. Sorry if this doesn't make much sense, I'm in a place of redefining my relationship to relationship so its a bit confusing........

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Looking For Single Women In/Around New Jersey

2007-02-14T00:39:36Z

~~Hey hey, looking for some fun, and companionship, check out my bio for details and photos. dont be be shy Im real easy going, drop me an message if you're interested. relationship potential if deep connections are made. 18-35 ish age may aswell be a blank lable, it cant descibe its own contents. I hate the way this sounds like an ad but take it for what it is and check me out, well take it from here to personal

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overheard at burningman

2007-02-04T23:47:23Z

at "The Deep End" a bunch of fun loving strangers were all dancing together to a rocking beat. One of the bouncey girls leaned in to a tricked out boy and said "Boys or girls?" He looked at her for a moment and she repeated "Boys or girls?"

"Oh, boys" he said, and she smiled and started dancing with someone else.

We laughed.

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Gore Vidal.

2007-01-11T21:15:21Z

I was reading a biography on Jack Kerouac by Ellis Amburn and he put a quote by Gore Vidal in that I thought I'd share with you all.

"Most people are a mixture of impulses if not practices, and what anyone does with a willing partner is of no social or cosmic significance."

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Happy 2007!

2007-01-08T07:28:37Z

I hope you all have a brilliant 2007
filled with love of all kinds.

Fondly,
Solar

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HA. Heard that one nefore. How about...FxHG ug. ?

2006-12-11T12:59:40Z

Wanna raise a Flag ?
CONFERATE ?
GET YER GUN.gal.

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The Heart of True Love Part 1

2006-11-30T21:58:28Z

Remember ~
"Anything will give up its secrets if you love it enough!"
~ George Washington Carver

To Begin........

Breathe deeply, slowly and rhythmically.
Open your heart to tranquility.
Empty your mind of thought.
Allow love to enter.

Now Listen....

Listen to the Heart of True Love
True love is not something one does.
It is not something one has.
It is not a thing.
It is not an action.
It is not even a feeling.
It is the cause.
There is no strife in true love.
It is always at ease.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
The true lover knows herself.
She doesn't try to convince others.
She is content with herself.
She doesn't need the approval of others.
Because she accepts herself,
The whole world accepts her.
She doesn't think of herself as superior
Because she knows herself as a conduit
rather than a cause.
She is gene rous and graciously attracts opportunities
to be of service.
She doesn't care to possess anything or anyone,
because she knos
she already belongs to everyting and everyone

Listen to the Heart of True Love
When the true lover runs into difficulty,
she stops and gives herself to it.
She doesn't focus on her own comfort;
thus problems are really no problem to her.

Listen to the heart of true love.
Love is equally available to the good and the bad person,
but to differing effects.
Love is an inexhaustible treasure to the good person.
No matter how lavishly it is bestowed,
there is always more.
Love is a refuge to the bad person.
it doesn’t judge and endlessly offers yet another chance.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
Love is the mother.
It is also the child.
As the mother, love gives birth to all things;
nourishes and cares for them,
comforts and protects them;
guides and cherishes them.
As the child, love springs forth into life,
unconscious and perfect.
Love takes on a body, grows into fullness;
recognizes itself,
and returns to its source,
only to become again.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
Definitions cannot circumscribe love.
We cannot say directly.
Love both surrounds and pervades everything.
It existed before the universe was born.
Love is before everything.
Everything is born of love.
Love is the heart of all things.
It is so common.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
Love alone endures.
Eventually all things, all experience, all memory vanish into it.
It is formless and perfect.
It is serene, unchanging, infinite and eternally present.
It nourishes worlds both visible and invisible, yet makes no claim upon them.
It existed before all names,
but we call it love.
It is pure mystery.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
Love, as the great mother, gives birth to infinite worlds.
The more it is used, the more it produces.
It is inexhaustible.
You can use it in any way you please.
It can only be found within yourself.
Surrender, and love will come of its own accord.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
The true lover is the greatest servant.
She is available to all people and doesn't reject anyone.
She is ready to make use of any situation and doesn't waste anything.
She has no fixed plans and desires no specific outcome.
She follows her intuition.
Free from concepts, she is truly useful and valuable.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
Because she is so rich and her treasure so valuable,
the true lover takes great pleasure in sharing her bounty.
The more she does for others,
the happier she is.
The more she gives to others,
the wealthier she is.
The true lover carefully fulfills her own responsibilities and corrects her own mistakes.
By demanding nothing of others,
she is never in lack.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
Love is a flow which must constantly be given away.
Its source is a mystery.
Because she knows that there is no end to her treasure,
the lover can keep giving.
Without expecting return,
she is free.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
What mystery, the beneficence of the lover!
She holds no concern for wealth,
yet the people around her prosper.
She finds no need to conform to religion or philosophy,
yet the people around her become serene.
She gives little attention to issues of the common good,
yet good becomes as common as water.
She simply lives for love and love encompasses and sustains all.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
The true lover is like the newborn child.
Her spirit is forever fresh.
She doesn't worry.
She is unaware of herself and acts without thinking.
She lets things come and go effortlessly.
She is in love with the world,
but doesn't know why.
She constantly explores,
but doesn't expect to find anything.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
There is nothing more enduring than true love.
She who fully embraces love,
will likewise endure.
Her name will be honored for generations.
Her effect will continue forever.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
The wise lover lives lightly in the world,
without attachment to either hopes or fears.
She knows the world is forever out of control.
She doesn't force issues.
She simply allows life to take its course,
then harvests the results .

Listen to the Heart of True Love
The true lover gives herself to the present
and delights in what the moment brings.
Her mind holds no illusions.
Her body is without resistance.
Her actions flow from a source deep within.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
The true lover lives in love.
That is what gives her radiance.
Love is deep and dark and empty.
How can it make her radiant?
Because she lets it.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
Like water,
love nourishes all beings.
By seeking the low places,
love shapes and nourishes the world.
Love is not a condition to be pursued or achieved.
It arises naturally, from humble origins.
Because she is truly useful to all beings,
the true lover is respected by all.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
If you accept the world as it is,
love will become luminous within you.
You will return to your primal purpose.
With love,
you become the perfect tool for the will of the Creator.
Everything is possible.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
The world is a sacred place.
It cannot be improved.
If you try, you will ruin it.
It has always been this way.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
To love and be loved is the breath of creation
This rhythm is the cause of all existence.
It comes from and returns to the realm of nothingness.
It has no outer or inner limit.
Love is subtle beyond all understanding.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
Love is your destiny, your origin, your life.
You cannot comprehend it.
You cannot grasp it.
It has no beginning.
It will never end.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
See life as it really is.
Do not try to control it.
Forcing things always leads to disharmony, imbalance, conflict
and finally to disaster.
Premature action creates failure.
Trying to grasp and possess causes the loss.
Trying to dominate events goes against the current of love.
Love sets its own natural course.
There is no strife in true love.
It is always at ease.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
Can you step back from your own mind and observe yourself?
Can you deal with matters that seem important by letting events take their course?
Can you love people and teach them without imposing your hopes and fears upon them?
Can you let your body become as supple and responsive as a new born baby's?
Can you let go of the mind's compulsions and keep to the original reality?
Can you relax in calm attentiveness and allow your vision to see nothing but the light?
With true love you can do all this effortlessly.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
Possessive love is not eternal love.
Eternal love is real.
Experiencing it is reality.
It is the same everywhere.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
When true love becomes present in your life,
you will become genuine.
When it becomes present in your family,
your family will flourish.
When it becomes present in your world,
you will see paradise.
Nothing is more sacred than love.
Nothing!

Listen to the Heart of True Love
Simplicity, Patience and Compassion;
these are your greatest lessons.
Simple in thoughts and actions,
you rest in the source of your being.
Patient with both friends and enemies,
you accept what is.
Compassionate toward yourself and others,
you are at one with your world.
These are also your greatest teachings.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
The world sometimes seems full of difficulty.
Love is the easy way.
Naming is the beginning of separation and the origin of manifestations.
When things are out of balance,
breathe deeply and become serene.
Reside,
once again,
at the center.
Return to love.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
Love speaks for itself.
Teaching without words is the skill of the lover.
She allows things to happen.
Because she lets go of her personal desires,
she is perfectly fulfilled.
The lover is respected,
because she is content.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
The skillful lover simply allows the world to be.
In not doing she expresses herself completely.
Doing nothing,
she leaves nothing undone.
Centering herself in love,
her world transforms itself in its own natural rhythms.
Love never does anything,
yet through it all things are done.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
When you fully open your heart to love,
you become love,
and can express love completely.
Open yourself to love and trust your natural responses.
If you want love to come,
then love.
Everything will fall into place.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
True lovers willingly give up everything for love,
and thus have everything.
Only in being lived by love,
can you be yourself.
You know this is true.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
Love the world.
Love it as yourself.
For in truth it is.
The world is but a robe for the mystery within.
The body is its instrument.
Love sees through these eyes, listens through these ears, dances through this body.
The world is its sacred temple.
Honor it!

Listen to the Heart of True Love
In the absence of desire,
we experience the flow of eternal love.
Caught in desire,
we see only the manifestations.
Eternal love and the manifestations arise from the same source.
The source is nothingness, emptiness within emptiness, beyond all comprehension.
It is the beginning of all understanding.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
Some say that this teaching of love is nonsense, lofty but impractical.
But to those of less judgment,
who patiently look within themselves,
an understanding of the inner meaning shows that this teaching makes perfect sense.
And those who put this teaching into practice,
find that it has roots that run deep.

Listen to the Heart of True Love
The true teacher does not add to.
He takes away.
The teacher demonstrates emptiness and availability
to the entry and action of love.
The teacher empties the mind,
weakens ambition and creates confusion.
The teacher undoes people
and helps them to lose both their hopes and fears.
The teacher creates the space for love to enter.

So Enter!

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current needs?

2006-11-30T07:33:47Z

First of all I will assume that we each have changing needs and desires throughout our life journeys. You may have had multiple partners all your life, and lately you think you want to settle down with someone monogamously. Or maybe you've been in a committed relationship a long time and are ready to move on and explore a little more, etc...

So I'm curious -- what are your current needs? Have they changed recently? Do you know why you need these things now?

I am asking because I think they key to happiness is know exactly *what* you want and *why*. The more we understand this, the more honest we can be with ourselves and others, which simplifies life a great deal.

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When Someone INSISTS...

2006-11-26T02:30:09Z

That you give them a label so that they can try to understand you from Your point of view, what sort of definition do you dole out ?

In my experience, very few people are satisfied with the answer "I am just me".

Like Popeye says "I yam what I yam" but everyone has to refer to him as the sailor man... and hell his theme song is nothing but a pile of labels.

... oops where did that come from?

I like that girl from "Better Than Chocolate" with her "omnisexual" .

Uh, what I have to tell people is that I am a lesbian-identified bisexual. And it fits, but sometimes I ponder - if I was currently partnered with a man (as in the past) would that have made me a hetero-identified bisexual ? I dunno, it is all really interesting to me.

So what do you say, when impelled to really define your sexuality ?

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more love and no more labels.

2006-11-14T09:38:42Z

love is reaql.labels are invantion.like people say no more labels we all gonna live and love without labels.

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Is there a difference?

2006-11-07T03:12:56Z

I have a question for the tribe. Is there a difference in the way we are attracted to different genders? In other words, are you attracted to different things in a man from what attracts you in a woman? How about a trangendered person?

For me, there is some difference. I can't put my finger on it, but I do think that different genders trigger different feelings in me. I feel attracted to men who are more coy. I feel attracted to women who are more aggressive. These aren't the only things that touch me, far from it, but these preferences tend to run along gender lines.

I'd love to listen to your thoughts, especially if you can describe feelings which transcend what I suppose we can call a "gender bias"...

thank you,
J
.

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Poly/ Open Relationship Support Group starting Nov 5th in SF

2006-10-30T23:05:22Z

Dear friends & whomever might be interested..

Meriana de Jager and Ty Gesyuk would like to invite you to a bi-weekly poly/open relationships support group, beginning Sunday, November 5th from 6-8 PM, in the Glen Park neighborhood of San Francisco.

We believe that each individual has an inner knowing of what relationship models fits them best so this group is being formed in order to help you create more choices in relationship.
We will:
* discuss the difference between polyamory and open relationships.
* share concerns around why different models of relating hasn't worked for you.
* focus on specific issues such as jealousy management, the negotiating of boundaries, etc.
* ascertain which models of relating is best for you and learn how to assert and manage each one.
* discuss and provide information, tools and skills about how to create more options for either polyamory or open relationships.
* illuminate the ways in which we stop ourselves from getting what we want.
* offer integration techniques for successfully negotiating differences in relationship models.

We are committed to creating a safe and comfortable environment for communication, innovation and experimentation. There will be plenty of room for discussions and exchange of experiences, as well as guided exercises and structured interactions.

This group is open to individuals and couples with all kinds of experiences with poly/& open relationships from any sexual orientation. You are welcome whether you are already in or contemplating an open/polyamorous relationship, or you are much more monogamous with a polyamorously inclined partner.

THE FACILITATORS:

Meriana de Jager earned her Masters in Counseling Psychology at the California Institute of Integral Studies and is currently working at New Perspectives Center for Counseling. She has been working with individuals and couples for 5 years. Some of the psychotherapeutic modalities she has extensive training and practice in are Psychodynamics, Cognitive Behavioral, Hakomi, RCS and Body-centered psychotherapy.
Meriana feels strongly about each persons right to create for themselves the life they truly desire. She is passionate about helping people find, define and be empowered in what is true for them and is committed to helping them actualize it in their lives.

TY GESYUK has worked as a personal coach for many years and has interviewed thousands of couples on what makes a healthy relationship last. His approach in coaching couples is rooted in the oriental wisdom of nature. Apart from working as a personal coach he has an extensive background in yoga, meditation, dance, massage, martial arts, nutrition and personal training. He draws from modern and ancient systems to teach, in simple terms, a language of health. His core belief is that health equals freedom. After observing people suffer with health concerns and in a prison-of-sorts from their pain, he vowed to do something about it. Since then he has founded three centers of health, taught over a hundred thousand yoga students, and massaged thousands of people.

Address: 298 Laidley St. @ Miguel
in the Glen Park neighborhood of San Francisco

RSVP is recommended

This first gathering on November 5th will be donation based. If you feel this information will help you to the point of wanting to continue to come to these gathering, in the future there will be a sliding scale of $20-$50. No one will be turned away for lack of funds. Call Meriana at 415-713-3338 or Ty at 973-495-5996 if you have any questions. Hope to see you there!

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Susie Bright

2006-10-17T04:12:53Z

Here's a quote I found on Susie Bright's blog that I enjoyed and I thought I'd share with all of you.

The notion of being "born" a certain way, sexually, is a Puritanical bear trap. I hate to see anyone, particularly a liberal, fall into it. You are born... sexual. That's it. In the beginning, there is no difference to you between sex, hunger, being held, discovering light, coming to consciousness.

And then some of us begin to identify what we like and don't like, our various discriminations. Some of them change through the years, others remain steadfast.
-Susie Bright 11/02/05

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Normalizing Same-Sex Relationships in TV

2006-10-13T06:29:25Z

I am awaiting the day where a show like Battlestar Galactica will have a storyline with a same-sex love interest. One that won't be treated differently- where the drama is about the realtionship itself, and no one reacts to it as if it were a big deal.

Like imagine if 'Friends' or something like that just happened to have rachel and phoebe fall in love. and no one would react to the 'gay' part of it. it would just be another love story.

I know there are movies that do this but are there examples of mainstream TV shows that have a gay relationship without it being a gay issue?

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Are Intimate- Partners Security Blankets?

2006-09-18T03:09:33Z

HEY TO EVERYONE!
Struggling - a new sexual relationsip has begun in my life and getting lost in what exclusive versus committed versus whatever else people say it is? Realizing how much i don't like labeling my relationships BUT how much a paradox I am living because I feel this desire to lable this new relationship as SOMETHING? Is an 'intimate' partner (what might be a committed-sexual relationship) something any more special than other relationships in people's lives? and then people just hold onto that? (making it potentially a lifetime thing) OR it isn't necessarily 'more' special but people use it as a security blanket not be alone? There is no one answer, it is whatever answer I give it.....but feeling lost in a sea of preconceptions....looking for some outside perspectives. Sending everyone light, love, and happiness
M

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husband is a label . . .

2006-09-03T14:29:40Z

that i can live with as a gay man - but it s not yet possible in washington state. lets change that.

tom chambers is a washington state supreme court justice up for re-election in position 9. he voted to overturn the ban on gay marriage and we need to keep him on the bench. this election will be decided in the primary vote on sept 19, 2006. if you wait for the nov 7 general election it will already be over! ya gotta vote in the primary sept 19. supreme court positions are non--party statewide elections.

also vote for susan owens in position 2.

we don't have a good choice for position 8. gerry alexander may be the lesser of two evils.

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yiffers for real?

2006-08-21T15:03:03Z

tell me about the so-called furries. hetero, homo or both?

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Orientation Labels = Politics

2006-08-16T21:47:55Z

Orientation labels are really about politics. If they were ever about behavior, they aren't anymore. Pick a label, any label, and I have known or talked to people who wear that label and sleep with only men, only women, or both men and women. And I've known people who claim vigorously to be both gay and straight.

Labels are about politics, and to some degree about self identification. But in the case of orientation labels, the aspect of self identification isn't about behavior, but is about which group of people you prefer to hang around with, to which community you want to belong, etc, which is why there are now dykes who don't play with or sleep with women, etc. People chose their orientation labels based on which group of people they want to be accepted by and on the basis of how they want to be seen by others.

More... who people hangs out with may or may not be important to any particular individual. Some people are avid democrats. Some are rabid republicans. But many in our culture are either strongly allied with some other group, or literally have no strong ties to any political party. Similarly, orientation just isn't that important to a lot of people.

Part of the gay/straight paradigm is that people must be one or another. And this is still the reigning paradigm in our culture. So imagine what must be true for the bulk of humanity who are actually quite capable of being sexually fullfilled by people of any gender, so long as they have a suitable interpersonal connection and the behaviors/mechanics work out right. Many of those folks pick one label, (gay, straight, dyke, queer, whatever), and live with it even though it doesn't fit any better than wearing your shoes on the wrong feet. At least they're the right size, right?

The idea that people were "born" with their sexual orientation is an extremely new idea historically. It may even be true for some people, though I think that is likely a very small portion of the human population. The win to this idea is that many gay folks believe that being born gay justifies their homosexuality. This is important when anti-gay folks are constantly attacking their for their "choices" in lifestyle because people who are "born with it" are presumed to have less choice in the issue. If being gay is a perfectly acceptable life choice, akin to chosing to live in the suburbs vs living in a city, then being born gay would have significantly less importance.

Were you "born" leather? I wasn't. I wasn't born polyamorous either. Nor hetrosexual. I was simply born. I was monogamous, het, (and vanilla, though I didn't see that as a choice at the time), when I thought that's what I was supposed to be or what I needed to do in order to find partners. I did it. I was successful at it. I was relatively happy.

I now consider myself to be leather oriented to some degree and spiritually based. These are choices that I've made for myself in my life, at least for now. I'm also practicing polyamory and I currently eschew orientation labels because none of them fit. Poly isn't something I am, not for me, it's something that I'm doing for now because it's working for me.

People sometimes refer to bdsm as a hobby. Aside from procreation, sex can also be considered a hobby. There's no particular need for a long term partner, aside from convenience and insecurity. Certainly many human beings live celibate lives, some by explicit choice and commitment, others by defacto choice, and some simply because they aren't making any time or effort to be anything else.

My point here is that orientation labels are about politics. People are selecting their selecting their self identification orientation labels, (or labeling others), on the basis of how they want to be seen by others and on the basis of who they want to be accepted by, associated with, or socialize with. The labels haven't represented behavior in many years and they no longer even represent desires or attitudes. Today, they are simply about politics.

And people change social associations all the time. We change jobs. Join clubs. Quit clubs. Move to new neighborhoods. Make new friends - daily. Orientation labels really aren't much more than the color of your hat, or the animal on your political button.

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mild to wild conference

2006-08-13T14:48:00Z

listings » events » community »
Everything from Mild to Wild! Building Bridges Conference Oct. 13-15 Seattle 7 views since posting on Sat, August 12, 2006 - 8:54 AM
Date & Time: Friday, October 13, 2006 - Sunday, October 15, 2006
9:00 AM
Location: Red Lion Inn
11211 Main Street
Bellevue, WA 98004 view map

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That's me! That's me!

2006-08-04T02:09:44Z

Oh my god, that's me! (Zappa, Filmore East)

I came across this tribe and the title certainly got my attention. then the description of what you all are about sealed it. This is exactly how I feel. I'm into acceptance and "inclusion". The only people I have difficulties with are those that "exclude" others. I don't care for yacht clubs or golf clubs, car clubs or gay clubs. I like all kinds of music and I tend to distance myself from those that talk trash about other genres of music than their own favorite. I don't care what you sexual orientation is until you start to dis others for theirs.

I respect your boundaries, please respect my lack of.

Hugs, kissses and carresses to you all...and thanks for having me!

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Sexual Journeys

2006-07-14T17:34:52Z

I am taking a sexual journey to discover what it is that I actually LIKE in bed, versus what I always "thought" I would like.

I find I am stumbling at times, soaring at other times, and just plain confused right now.

Just thought I would share. Thank you for accepting me, I've appreciated it.

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Define This Label

2006-06-23T18:13:53Z

I really don't know what an absolute definition of "Straight" is exactly. I mean it sounds boring and lacking in character as far as a way to define someone's sexuality.

I know there is straight and crooked. I know if you don't do drugs you are a straight. If you ask for something "straight" you don't want anything else with it. But why is heterosexual behavior straight exactly? And how can someone assume to be straight?

I am not just talking Kinsey scale here, I mean auto-erotica is by nature a same-sex act.

Straight-hetero, straight-homo. The word gets tossed around so much it has very little meaning to me in the realm of sexuality. I really don't know what to make of it anymore. I think it is a bit naive and um...b.s.

How do others in this tribe view the term "straight" I wonder?

Maybe your perspectives could help me figure it out better.

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who are we

2006-06-18T23:53:30Z

( I got tired after paging down thru all those other ones.)

Love is peace,
Love is joy,
Love is girls,
Love is boys,
Love is all that is.

Love is all that is.

There is simply nothing more,
Remember what we came here for,
Love is all that is.
Celia

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The Great Hafiz on Gender

2006-05-22T03:33:04Z

How Does It Feel to Be a Heart?

Once a young woman asked me,
"How does it feel to be a man?"
And, I replied,

"My dear,
I am not so sure,"

Then she said,
"Well, aren't you a man?"

And this time I replied,

"I view gender
As a beautiful animal
That people often take for a walk on a leash
And might enter in some odd contest
To try to win strange prizes.

My dear,
A better question for Hafiz
Would have been,

"How does it feel to be a heart?'

For all I know is Love,
And I find my heart Infinite
And Everywhere!"

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Birds do it, bees do it...PENGUINS do it!

2006-05-21T16:27:44Z

http://www.jrn.columbia.edu/studentwork/cns/2002-06-10/591.asp

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conventional ideas

2006-04-08T23:46:54Z

Just curious about how some of you handle this:

Do you ever have relationships with people who have a very conventional idea of a "relationship"? i.e. they have no experience with anything except straight non-kinky monogamy and so forth.

If you do get involved with such people, are you up front about your philosophy immediately? Do you go along with their conventional comfort level? Do you try to educate or persuade them to new possibilities they have never tried before? (and does that ever backfire?)

Or do you prefer not to get involved with such people in the first place?

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The "T" Cabaret - Victoria BC

2006-04-08T21:19:32Z

The “T” CABARET
A fundraiser for the
TRANS CYCLING ODYSSEY
SATURDAY APRIL 22nd
LITTLE FERNWOOD (1923 Fernwood Rd)
Victoria BC

Doors @ 7pm/Show @ 8pm
Sliding Scale ($5.00 - 15.00)

FEATURING:
Live Auction
Spoken Word
Raffle Prizes
Performances by local musicians
Including SALT
(Featuring Awna Teixeira and Allison Russell)

The Trans Cycling Odyssey is a bike trip from Victoria, BC to St. John's
Newfoundland, beginning in May 2006. Inspired by Alexandria Tucker's memory this
trip will raise transgender and suicide awareness across Canada

This trip started out as a discussion of how best to celebrate the life of Alexandria
Tucker, a trans woman who was born in St John's, Newfoundland, and died in Victoria, British Columbia. It grew into a project which aims to bring trans awareness, suicide prevention information and support across Canada through a national cycling and education tour.

www.flyingtrannys.com

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Sexuality Abroad

2006-03-31T03:35:53Z

i don't mean a broad's sexuality...

Please share any observations you've made as you've lived or traveled around the globe.

"China officially struck homosexuality off the list of mental illnesses two years ago and even smaller cities now boast gay bars and meeting places."

"Everyone has the right to pursue love and sex, it's a basic human right"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3389767.stm

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600+

2006-03-30T16:09:59Z

611 lovers as of today!!!
you people rock.

so?
what's going on?
i know you can't *all* be self-actualized and fulfilled.
let's get things shaking in here again.

while many people may be leaving tribe, we still have access to each other here.
so let's utilize it while we can.

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Peter Berlin, Porn Star

2006-03-30T03:06:32Z

"Berlin might be grateful for love and recognition, but he rejects the idea that he's a totem of gay culture. "I don't buy any label of straight or gay. I don't function well in a group or within the setting of an audience. I'm a very solitary person. People tell me I'm this sort of icon for some people, and they hang me on the wall next to Marilyn Monroe. And who do I have hanging on the wall?" He gazes around the room. And from around the room, hundreds of Peter Berlins gaze back."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/02/13/DDGNAH5URV1.DTL&type=gaylesbian

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Love Theme Today? Hmmmmm?

2006-02-28T04:12:11Z

Funny how I been bumpin inta luuuuv all over da place ta-DAY!

And here, too! Oh, and I found this in my own writing today.
In some old chat conversation I said:

"I don't try to figure out sexual orientation or gender identity too much anymore. Having been pretty much run through the wringer on these issues myself, I try to connect straight to someone's 'love core'. What to do with the plumbing can always be figured out."

Heh. Though this would be a good place to pin that one up...

Luv y'all to Peaces,
~Jessa~

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A Story.

2006-02-26T10:47:11Z

This is a fairly long, rambling and very weird story, but it goes somewhere. Bear with me.

So there was this show at the end of the 1990s called the Chimp Channel. It aired on the Superstation, TBS or whatever you call it. Basically the premise was to spoof current TV and movies using chimpanzees as actors and dubbing their lines. Actually one of the actors was an orangutan, not a chimpanzee like the others, but I digress.

So one day, I remember, years ago, they spoofed Celebrity Jeopardy, and one of the celebrity guest stars played by a chimp was Italian director Roberto Benigni. This was shortly after his Oscar wins for La Vita è Bella, "Life is Beautiful," when he ran across the seat backs of everyone in the audience to claim his awards, offering boundless affection in broken English to people everywhere.

So a question comes up for our contestants. Something about gravity. I think that it was something like: "According to Issac Newton, what goes up must come down, according to this law." And the chimp playing Roberto Benigni, in a cute little tuxedo, gets the question wrong: instead of buzzing in he climbs on top of his podium, jumping up and down, long mokey arms waving, doing that thing we call "going bananas." And his badly dubbed voice cries to the heavens, "Love, love, love is the only law!!!"

Of course he didn't get the question right. I forget who did-- maybe the chimp playing Julia Roberts. But what I remember, years later, is the image of a vaguely humanoid figure leaping in the air and shouting joyously.

Love, love, love is the only law.

I've had moments like this in my own life. I cherish them. And when they hit, I'm tempted to agree with that wise little chimp.

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Love

2006-02-26T08:57:46Z

I love it whenever I see my crush.
I love it whenever I buy clothes that fit me just fine.
I love it whenever I get to eat my favorite foods.
I love it whenever the plane I'm in touches the ground bec. it means I won't be getting airsick anymore.
I love it whenever I'm on the beach, the skies are clear, the waters are calm, and there are few people around.
I love it whenever I see cute lovers holding hands.
I love it whenever traffic's not heavy.
I love it whenever I meet interesting people.
I love it whenever I realize that I made the right decisions.
I love it whenever I get to put a smile on other people's faces and then laugh with them.
I love it whenever I think about the people who love me.
I love it whenever I'm in-love.
I love it knowing that love is free.

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happy V-day

2006-02-16T06:54:22Z

from http://LOVEspace.org

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How do you meet people...?

2006-02-10T08:02:05Z

I'm curious as to how do you meet people who have the same 'open' perspective as 'us' (so-to-speak)? Actually it seems even everyone in here are different... with indidvidual perspectives on things (which is great). But outside of cyber-world, where do you connect with, minimally labelled, open-hearted individuals?

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a tribe for 40s plus ..

2006-01-31T19:03:45Z

40s plus Seeking A Relationship

A tribe for those of you 40 and over , that are seeking true Relationships , starting with friendship first and possibly becoming a meaningful relationship based on commitment and love.

A tribe for those of you 40 and over , that are seeking true Relationships , starting with friendship first and possibly becoming a meaningful relationship based on commitment and love.

This is definitely NOT for those seeking recreational sexual times or "swinging " You can find that elsewhere, so please do not come here "trolling "for a recreational partner..
if the contents in your profile indicates this ,or your post here ,you will be deleted from this tribe . in short , it will not be tolerated.

Our purposes is to have discussions, share ideas, meet new friends and try to find a loving relationships. , and might be any combination of genders, but your search should be for a LTR….
You must have your age in your profile … or be deleted from this tribe …

http://tribes.tribe.net/40splusseekingarelationship

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Moon Oracle let the phases of the moon guide your life

2006-01-26T00:45:00Z

About letting go ~
In-vision your lover in a boat with all things needed for a safe journey to flow out on a long slow moving river towards freedom. Yet you hold a rope tied to the boats bow.
Letting go of the rope sets both boat & lover free they are now free of us and the shore line.

What's wrong with this vision ~
We are still trapped on the shore line.
It's not our lovers who should be in the boat we hold the rope to keeping them on our shore line, it is ourselves.
By standing on the shore line we only stay in one place, no wonder we hold on to people and things who sail by it's very logical it's lonely on shore all alone.

I invite you to see a new vision ~
You are in the boat with all things needed for a safe journey flowing out on a long slow moving river yet this time the rope tied to the shore line is now in your hands.
On shore you see all things you love and value, none of which will fit into the boat.
You let go of the rope flowing gently down river and find freedom.
Finding this opens us to all-love on all levels all things and ideas all-ways of life.

The moon is key ~
We are here in this tribe for a reason, we need to understand the effects the moon has on our lives.
On December 27, 2005 I ended a moon cycle which began Jan 10, 2005
A time of learning, much Pluto pain twisted by the moons Lilith and that big shiny one we call the moon.

The moon Oracle ~
Let the phases of the moon guide your life: by Caroline Smith and John Astrop.
I would say to any-one who wishes to use the moon get this book!!!!!
Inside you'll find a very cool tarot deck, and a moon table that will amaze you in how right on things happen.
A sprit I know went through a moon cycle which began in Feb 2005, Till jan 2006, the day the event was ending we meet once more in person in total peace and calm, not something we could do during these two events. So how do you slow down or rush an event like that,,, you don't.

Make or Break ~
If one of these events is on-going, about to happen or has happened in your life what should you do?
Let go of the rope.

All Sisters Here
http://daughtersofthemoon.tribe.net/?_click_path=Application%5Btribe%5D.Tribe%5B0ad01871-ba0e-4548-9414-2710ef35fbc0%5D

Dream Love Moon
DLM
rock 2 rose

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