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a quick way to help people understand something about you without actually getting to know you.
words that try to sum up what is better said in a longer conversation.
sticky things that help identify things, but after a while just get annoying and one has to pick and peel them away.
a quick way to help people understand something about you without actually getting to know you.
words that try to sum up what is better said in a longer conversation.
sticky things that help identify things, but after a while just get annoying and one has to pick and peel them away.
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Thu, June 28, 2007 - 12:43 AM...actually a waste of time. If someone can please tell me who it was that said this (approximate) quote:
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Thu, June 28, 2007 - 12:43 AMOoops. The beginning of the sentence is "labels are..." -
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Thu, June 28, 2007 - 7:44 AM"Labels are....." those things that get you to where you want to be with less delays and where you dont have to shake each and every can looking for your soul mate. -
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Fri, June 29, 2007 - 12:15 AM"...you dont have to shake each and every can looking for your soul mate."
You would first have to believe that there is something as "your" soul mate. In one form or another, every person on this planet is a "soul mate" with each other. Unless, of course, you're talking about the over-hyped, over-romanticized "soul mate" - which is just another limiting label. -
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Sat, June 30, 2007 - 7:56 AM"unless, of course, you're talking about the over hyped, over romanticized....." So what are you saying Caine. I should take the first thing that comes along just to be true to the anti labeling idea? No thanks bro. That'd be like going into a Country Buffet and all they had to offer was tray after tray of soggy top ramen and nothing else. Maybe labels do "limit" a person a little but using them can expidite things quite a bit. I'm convinced I have a soul mate out there somewhere for sure. He drives a ferrari, lives in a villa on the Mediterranean, is a french or Italian nobleman, and is waiting patiently to idolize me and be my beeatch. -
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Fri, July 6, 2007 - 8:11 PMThat's not a "soulmate" - those are just your preferences. Invented by you in your own mind. They don't exist anyplace else. Not saying there's anything wrong with having preferences, I just don't believe in any sort of pre-destined "soul mate." It's all just preferences and opinions. I certainly hope you find your preference.
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Thu, June 28, 2007 - 4:41 PM"If you label me you negate me"--Søren Kierkegaar
This quote is also brought up in pop culture:
Cassandra: That is very funny. But labelling people can be dangerous.
Wayne: Was it Kierkegaard, or Dick Van Patten, who said, "If you label me, you negate me?"
-- Wayne's World (1992)
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Sun, December 2, 2007 - 9:20 AMLabels are lazy peoples' way of not having to look at the world 3-dimensionally.
Slap a label on it and put it in its place there in the world of black and white, and there, now they understand it ( and I'm sure it makes them feel a lot more secure in the world)...
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Thu, June 28, 2007 - 8:50 AMLabels are useful for organizing storage boxes and drawers - ie, things you really just don't want to look at for a while.
Labels are a problem when they become prescriptive rather than descriptive.
Labels are a fascinating study in dismissal.
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Thu, June 28, 2007 - 10:24 AMLabels are useful as broad descriptive catagories because they allow greater speed in decision making. They become counter productive when we confuse the label with the thing labeled. -
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Thu, June 28, 2007 - 4:43 PMGood point Liam, and well said. Labels are used for generalizations, but should be avoided when speaking of an individual.
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Fri, June 29, 2007 - 12:18 AM"They become counter productive when we confuse the label with the thing labeled."
This is an excellent point. Kind of like directions and signs to a location are not the actual location - they're just sign and pointers (i.e. "labels"). Once you're there, you don't need the directions/labels anymore. -
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Fri, June 29, 2007 - 2:15 AMYes that's very Zen or should I say thatness? It leads on to all the western metaphysical chatter about tableness and chairness.
The finger points and the viewers gaze leaves the finger and moves to the subject. Problems arise when the mind tries to view both at once as this creates confusion and paradox.
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Wed, July 4, 2007 - 5:29 PMLabels are...
- those things which can and don't always accurately describe what is being labeled (inside or out)
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Mon, July 2, 2007 - 10:40 PM"sign and pointers (i.e. "labels")" - Good one, Caine. I really appreciate that comparison.
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Sat, September 1, 2007 - 1:33 PMExcellent description.
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Thu, June 28, 2007 - 2:48 PMLabels are...
a great way to segregate things (people) -
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Thu, June 28, 2007 - 3:07 PMLabels are...........a piece of paper with words that you stick/ paste/ glue on "things.... sometime on the back of someone"
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Thu, June 28, 2007 - 3:15 PMLabels are...better left in the medicine cabinet.
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Thu, June 28, 2007 - 3:53 PMlabels are....a way to categorically make up ones mind.
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Thu, June 28, 2007 - 4:35 PMLabels are...
something others give to us that we don't own. -
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Sun, July 1, 2007 - 8:50 AMLabels are things on articles of clothing that sometimes certain people look at as a deciding factor on whether or not to put them on, instead of wearing them because they simply like how they look. -
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Mon, July 2, 2007 - 10:43 PMIf they were not worried about the names, then those particular type of labels (clothing) would be flipped over to show directions in how to care for same article.
Too bad labels don't work that way for people, we only have "brand names", not explaination of our make-up and how we should be handled. -
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Thu, July 12, 2007 - 9:36 PMOh, you are welcome Patrick. I forgot I posted it. Huh... I typed something not half bad for a change. ;-)
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Sun, July 1, 2007 - 10:35 AMLabels are necessary and only marginally informative.
... which is my way of agreeing with the first two of your descriptions...
"the map is not the territory" ... but... without the map it's difficult or sometimes impossible to navigate the territory... Good example: you would never use a forum, like the tribe forums, unless it offered labels in the form of subject lines. If the forum just splattered you with all of the content of the individual messages, it would become too impractical to read and you'd give up and go do something else, like crochet. -
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Mon, July 2, 2007 - 3:30 PMLabels are....
an easy way to categorize people, cast judgement, and make yourself look better....
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Wed, July 4, 2007 - 6:21 PMlabels are a conveniant way to draw a difference between yourself and something else, usually for the purpose of limiting your personal responsibility towards other people and things.
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Sat, July 7, 2007 - 11:51 AMlabels are.. of sentient beings. You, me, same, different. Categories of organization, chaos in transitional definitions, bridges and gaps, contradictions in the belief that one size fits all. Labels are awareness. The star on your belly, the genitals between my legs. shape, shades, sizes, surface, depth... shallow alignment in the cause of us vs them, yet the familiar bond that brings us closer together. Lines cross and form maps that align me with both sinners and saints; the establishment and all those who ain't.
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Mon, July 9, 2007 - 10:34 PMKinsey Quote:
"Only the human mind invents categories and tries to force facts into separated pigeon-holes. The living world is a continuum."
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Tue, July 10, 2007 - 6:22 PM"The living world is a continuum."
Thank you, Bo. Thank you Mr. Kinsey.
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Sun, July 15, 2007 - 11:32 PMLabels are...
...used for two, often mutually-exclusive, purposes:
1. To try to encapsulate in a few words an entire lifetime's experiences, preferences, and orientations - a vague approximation at best.
2. To associate onesself with a broad class of people with whom you share something in common.
I think most people in this tribe are objecting to #1. However, I think #2 is useful and shouldn't be disregarded without due consideration.
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Tue, July 17, 2007 - 4:51 PMLabels are...one of the cognitive tools available to conscious, self-aware beings. Like most tools there are situations where they are appropriate and there are situations where they are not the optimal tool to use.
I think an interesting gauge of a person is the range of communication tools they have at their disposal, and the appropriateness of the one they choose to use in a given situation.
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Mon, July 30, 2007 - 2:15 PMA quote:
One of the unpardonable sins, in the eyes of most people, is for a man to go about unlabelled. The world regards such a person as the police do an unmuzzled dog, not under proper control. - T.H. Huxley
Peace, Bo
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Mon, July 30, 2007 - 3:50 PM...not important.
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Sat, August 18, 2007 - 12:42 AMi agree with the "tools" analogy and that there are appropriate cases for using a label to deffine or distinguish someone or something.
however, like all words, Labels are... limited. it is our unique challenge to transcend those limitations.
it's like in music, we can label it under a genra and so on, but each composition has a unique character and sound. we can only grasp it by listening or experiencing it directly. i like classical music but i don't like all classical music.
i hope this made sence to someone .... it's one thing to judge a quality and another to put a label or name on it, they are not the same thing.
for instance, the word Love in 'I Love you' can represent a whole spectrum of ways to feel about someone, but society has put a very limited and narrow meaning for it, which we have learned to expect.
i would preffer not relying on words for such things.
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Sat, August 18, 2007 - 10:12 PMlabels are never encompassing and often misleading -
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Thu, August 30, 2007 - 11:00 AMLabels are..
an act of freezing into place that which yearns to run loose.
A summary, often fictitious.
an illusion that can be constructive, when used sparingly.
Otherwise, too much cayenne on the nachos! :D:D:D:D
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Sat, September 8, 2007 - 11:32 PMLabels are for mindless fools who use the insignificance of a label to make themselves appear somehow enlightened, and to perpetuate the delusion that they are somehow superior...
but that's just my oppinion.
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Sun, September 9, 2007 - 7:39 PMFalse ... they don't show the real person inside. -
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Sun, September 16, 2007 - 1:51 PMLabels are absolutely necessary to find a can of tomato soup. Maybe if we just don't stereotype... -
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Sat, October 6, 2007 - 11:45 PM... the way people think, but not the way that they love.
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